Minutes of September ISO Support Group Meeting

Six members attended the meeting on September 6, 2012 at the Dover Straits in Mundelein:   Dave Spengler, Regina Fullen, Ron Bateman, Bill Sherman, Jan Agostinelli
and Dave Taylor. We talked about another place for our meeting. Please let me know if you have a suggestion of a restaurant that would accommodate our 4 to 10 member group, has a private dining room, and a menu of entries under $15.

Continuing our study of ISO 19011 2011 Guideline for auditing Management Systems, we reviewed sections 6.4.7, “Generating Audit Findings”, 6.6 “Completing the Audit” and 6.7 “Conducting he Audit Follow-up.” We then rated the sections of the standard about how effective it would be in providing a good audit. T

In the Round Robin review:

Ron Bateman described a conversion in the oil business away from ISO 9000 to API (American Petroleum Institute) QI. This is a standard like TS 16949 automotive standard. Customer audits inundate his ompany now. One audit lasted 10 days. He shared some comprehensive checklists used for these audits and discussed the company’s strategy for reacting to the findings. In addition the industry is doing employee safety audits that are much more comprehensive than OSHA.

Bill Sherman reported that FDA is sending him on “road trips where he spends two days or more calling on regulated companies in places like Galesburg and Rockford. Unfortunately several of the companies he are now out of business.

Dave S said his company is having problems with soldering. Also some customers are asking for third-party audits of tests conducted for PPAPs.

Dave T reported he will conduct an internal audit at an electronics company next week.

Our next two meetings will be held at 6:00 on Thursday Oct 4 and Nov. 1, 2012. We will continue our study of ISO 19011:2011 Guideline for auditing Management Systems.

We are still experimenting with locations. The October meeting will be held at Adinas on Route 45, just SE of Dover Straits. Phone (847-918-9060)

As always, a gratifying, tasty meal will be served for $5.00 (free for members searching for a position), the balance being funded by ASQ section 1212 Northeast Illinois. The public is always invited and we welcome your questions about ISO or other standards. Let me know if you have particular subjects to discuss. Contact Dave Taylor at if you have any questions or need directions.

Dave Taylor
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